Did your team get 5 extra players when you decided to go BA? 8-16 minutes of walking to fire four times. The Achileus was jointly designed by scientists from the Free Worlds League and Word of Blake with the goal of creating a mass-producible light Battle Armor suit. Functionally, it is currently no different than the Inner Sphere Longinus. You arc SSRMs over walls in hopes that they will hit. I would like to go back to arguing about battle armor. You are ignoring the fact that MWLL has balanced teams and is PvP, so every player has to be roughly as capable of helping thr team win regardless of the asset class they take. You time your SSRM and mpPPC attacks very carefully to make the screenshake you deal more effective. To me it seems we are both skeptical about the merging of srm and C8, tho I'm willing to test it out. Without an mpPPC, you can't catch up to enemies, dodge incoming fire, deal death blows at range, shake enemy cockpits at opportune times, and your DPS is cut by about 1/4. And if there is just one enemy player who picks that 6 M.Gun Solitaire, or a Partisan or Huit, or a RIfleman, you and all your friends are going to have a very bad time (especially since you'll give away each other's position and reveal your APC locations extremely quickly). Thank Cryengine. Your reluctance has doomed us all. Try it. His LBXs will be ready again soon and he is further away from you; if you don't make him your next target, you're as good as dead. haarp They're awful. You communicate a known enemy to your team by firing a single missile into the canyon ahead to trigger their AMS. They are the source of bugs that involve switching weapons and grenade types. Date Introduced 2868 during the Era known as "Early Succession War" (2781 - 2900) - Unit Role: Infantry - Battle Armor. But just running won't work; you have to fight and defeat them somehow. It. Does this really sound fun to you? The Demolisher is an Inner Sphere main battle tank. Forest battle with many mechs. You fling a satchel at his back successfully, but since you've been forced to hold position to hide, your target's torso twist has put his back out of line for your second satchel. [rant deleted] You might chime in and say that I'd also have a Light M.Gun, so I'd be able to take out other BA. DeimosEvotec For the controls I don't really see the big problem. This is to compensate the lack of grenades. Your weapons aren't just sources of damage and they certainly aren't annoyances to manage, they're tools and lifelines! In a ba vs pilot (or ba) fight srm are not that important. BAs are the weakest assets in the game, so you have to win be using everything at your disposal as tools, first and foremost. So the 4 super srm will have roughly equal or less damage than 4 c8 which is a big overall reduction in potential damage but a big increase in the range which that potential damage can be dealt. We can keep a selection of switchable primary weapons. At the same time, the most annoying bugs, related to grenades, will be entirely avoided. Yes this doesn't avoid the bugs but the apc spawn bug seems fixable (even if it might be something hacky like spawning on an apc spawns you in the main base instead and then teleports you into the apc). Dominate the skies in fusion-powered aerospace fighters and nimble VTOL attackers. Living Legends. Easy 1K DMG. Originally, development was done on the Doom 3 engine, with the team switching to CryEngine 2 after the release of Crysis. But the bearac is useless at least 80% of the time since you wont be fighting ba or pilots 80% of the time. haarp You can start by mentioning what exactly your grief is with my proposal, as that is still not clear. So get closer. Bugs that seem to be otherwise not likely to be ever solved. BA SSRMs are critical for fighting enemy mechs and enemy BA (especially when every ejected pilot has one of the best anti-BA weapons by default). The main problem with battle armor has always been logistics, and the fact that he small heavy laser should never have existed. For the controls I don't really see the big problem, the defaults aren't that great imo because the next/previous weapon cycles are used on the mouse wheel. For instance, doubling BA HP at the expense of even 10% JJ fuel wouldn't be worth it, since double health would still have you instantly killed by most attacks that can be avoided completely with that extra fuel. And I mean that in the most insulting way possible. Health Regen (6 points/sec) after 10 seconds of taking no damage- regen rate can be doubled if the BA stops moving or crouches. Check out my twitch channel! Wait, no... 5 of our players have an ETA of 4 minutes instead of 30 seconds because they're on foot. The canon Elemental only has one shot of SRM2, whereas the MWLL Elemental mounts two. Battle Armor. Stride the battlefield in a titanic BattleMech - or swarm enemy 'Mechs as armored infantry. Concepts such as less damage the further away you are can also be evaluated. This is up to a balancing pass. In the same vein are the situations of the pilot ejected and got intercepted by a ba on the way to a buy zone or he ejected because his assets is unfit for fighting ba (no good anit ba weapons or close to death). Currently C8 requires you to be at very close range already. Unfortunately grenades are simply broken and no fix can be expected. Therefore you are slamming a proposition that would improve a BA's strength by 80%, which is not trying to justify anything at all whatsoever through canon. Sarna's HPG Station: Latest Newsbursts: 24 Dec 2020: Merry Christmas With Christmas around the corner and, I imagine (or at least hope for you), many people signing off for the rest of the year to enjoy the holiday season and get some well-deserved R&R, it's … It offers a first-person experience of piloting mechs, tanks, hovercraft, VTOLs, aerospace fighters, and even battle armor. No, it didn't. deimos and knighcrawler in charge of reading comprehension. m1 primary fire, m2 grenades throw, m3 srm fire, mw-up cycles between the two primaries and mw-down cycles through the grenades. I mean who doesn't want to use the Atlas' famed battle fists to punch things or hack into another battlemech with a Hatchetman or actually use a Centurion's shield arm to protect themselves. Over a decade ago, a talented team - Wandering Samurai Studios - began work on what would become an award-winning and much-beloved game: A total conversion bringing the BattleTech universe to Crysis Wars' Battlefield-inspired combined-arms experience. HAARP and to a lesser extent Fire Hound's proposal would drastically cut the strength of each Battle Armor, to the point where it is approaching canon-accurate. But the pilot should not have equal odds to win a fight against a ba. SRMs get limited ammo, but receive a massive damage buff. haarp As I said, I'm not proposing a single primary weapon. So get closer. That is what makes the asset type fun. MechWarrior: Living Legends has been in development since December 2006, and was at version 0.7.1 Beta as of January 2013. When those C8 charges go off, you'll have put a huge amount of hurt onto your first target. The attempt is to balance Battle Armor, giving ejecting pilots a small fighting chance while making dedicated ones more powerful. If we can get the srms to always be selected I would make it something like this: If it's against an ejected pilot you have probably already shot two of the four ssrm against his asset and only have 2 left. The only two valid cases for ejecting that I can find are ejecting when you can reach a buy zone in 20s or less Nobody plays every role. But if you don't want to buff the damage of the srm too much I would argue that four shots just isn't enough. You manage to destroy the mech but the asf kills you, the mech was worth a lot more tickets than your asf so you made a good trade but it still doesn't feel good. Without personal attacks, we should be able to work something out that is acceptable to everyone. In 3064 the Bluecoats were attached to II Corps of the Taurian Concordat, but are no longer in the Concordat.The are currently serving in Capellan Confederation space, were there have been attempts to lure them into Liao service.. Around this same time, a company of Bluecoats deserted the regiment after their captain was killed. Frankly, even then it would be a nerf, because I wouldn't have the freedom to use SSRMs for mind games, communication (yes), or BA duels. And that's awful. Every other weapon is worthless already. Even the noobiest of noobs can end your life in a single hit, and with only one or two of their weapons. Since they can target you through walls, they've had their reticules trained on you the entire time, and they're trying to get a clear shot. Just a couple of those pellets would have spelled your end. The point of the hardmounted BearAC is to offer limited self-defense capability due to the fact that primary weapons may not be taken into cockpits. Though they were unable to match the original Clan -tech machine, the Longinus came the closest of any Inner Sphere attempt at the time, thanks in part to the help of the Word of Blake. RDL_Vitos. The primary weapon (laser), secondary weapon (machine gun slung under the claw), SRM tubes and claw (unused). Reducing it's damage output is fine by me. DeimosEvotec the pilot should not have equal odds to win a fight against a ba. The short fuse of the Inferno Charge and its large blast radius make it particularly deadly to... well, yourself, so you reverse jets immediately to hop over his soon-to-be-incoming SRMs with the fuel you had reserved. DeimosEvotec it shouldn't be a bearac but something weaker, as I said before the bearac in its current form is a 600m anti ba deathray. You laugh maniacally as you're forced to flee from an unexpected group of mechs... but not before giving them the gift of Surprise NARC Beacon. Rule the streets as a tank commander, or pound the enemy with field guns and cruise missiles. The lack of SRMs and primary weapon is not a large disadvantage? It won Mod of the Year and Multiplayer Mod of the Year awards in 2009. Sure if you get right under their feet you are harder to hit, but you're more likely to get killed by probably-buggy legs. Do you really want a single BA SSRM to deal damage equivalent to 15 SSRMs in damage? Description The Longinus was the Free Worlds League 's attempt to duplicate Elemental Battle Armor. Severed limbs are actually capable of crushing unlucky/oblivious Battle Armor players in Living legends. I'm sure many have heard of MechWarrior: Online; well, this is an alternative game with even MOAR stuff in store! haarp Who the hell said anything about having a hard-mounted single primary weapon? Living Legends. How much damage a missile deals and how many reloads can ultimately be carried will be tweaked. Battle Armor: Living Legends I want to preface this by saying that I love this game. Dedicated ba don't need a hard-mounted bearac, the anti vehicle weapons might be harder to use against ba but they do the job just fine. This is why a top tier weapon should not be a default weapon, rather give everybody a mid tier weapon instead and keep the bearac as buyable weapon. One of them gets there first, but you were ready. They may only be fired for a limited time (indicated above the speed gauge in Mechs, and next to a Battle Armor's armor/health status)and require time to … Recoilless Rifle, Grenade Launcher, SRM-2, Man Pack PPC, Flamer and TAG Laser. So it's no surprise that you haven't really had moments like these: You're alone in a base being attacked by multiple mechs. It's quite simple tho. Openness: The first game, MechWarrior, is a type five, nearly a Wide Open Sandbox. So you throw an Inferno Charge at him. I was sitting on a teammate's mech, and jumped off right as it exploded. Time's running out on the LBX reload, though, so you pull our your mpPPC and with the last drop of fuel in your jets pop yourself just in front of his feet. The Longinus is the default Battle Armor for Inner Sphere players. Also what about inferno and narc grenades? From your posts, it is obvious you have yet to understand what is even proposed, jump to conclusions based on ignorance, then have the gall to question my skills. What do you see? 11:35. Unless they do Arrow IV damage, it's not enough. Having to constantly switch weapons and wait for it to rise up to see with ease which one you have selected is horrible UX. If you choose an mpPPC, you'll be able to move around the battlefield effectively and dodge enemy fire, but you won't deal enough damage to anything to be worth playing. There's no need to redesign any core mechanics; it was fun and balanced when it was working properly. Without an mHC, your DPS drops by 1/2. To maximize damage output, BA must juggle their weapons between weapon 1, weapon 2, and SRM all while using their jump jet fuel sparingly to avoid running out, but enough to avoid getting shot. Doubling JJ fuel at the expense of a second weapon would also be useless, because JJing without PPC-jumping can only work on approach against total noobs, and it decreases your mobility around a map considerably meaning you spend more of your time not doing anything. After many months of tireless work, we're pleased to announce a massive new content update! Backing up a few meters behind him puts you at risk of his blast again, but you have to finish this half of the fight quickly. As can be seen, the classic Elemental has four different weapon systems. ... welcome back, if you are new, welcome to the most special battle tech game yet. I rather have two primaries and having to switch than not having to switch but only having one primary and a hardmounted bearac. In that case my argument changes into it shouldn't be a bearac but something weaker, as I said before the bearac in its current form is a 600m anti ba deathray. Your proposal basically forces dedicated BA to take a BAC instead of something useful, which is something no good BA player in his right mind would do. It appears you dislike the removal of grenades. If you don't want to understand the very nice posts I made for you, Knightcrawler, let me summarize rudely: You suck. Scrap em for all I care, or allow special SRM ammo. I, the research team used the Blakist Tornado PAL as the basis for the new suit while seeking to overcome some of its defects. Therefore you are making a proposition that would cut a BA's strength by about 80% and justifying it to yourself by it being canon. Otherwise, I can assume your behavior will continue as it has up until now, so it is likely that posting in this topic will do no more good. Development of the suit began in July 3053 as soon as the Raiden reached its prototype stage and its designers began working on a suit which would carry more weapons and armor. /rant start DeimosEvotec To me it seems we are both skeptical about the merging of srm and C8, tho I'm willing to test it out. DeimosEvotec I would want to at least try to fix the grenade bugs before just removing them outright. I personally use select primary weapon and select secondary weapon on the mouse wheel instead. If that makes it sound like JJ fuel is the be-all-end all of buff stats, it's not. "attempt to balance Battle Armor, giving ejecting pilots a small fighting chance while making dedicated ones more powerful. New MechWarrior: Living Legends Forum ... Battle Armor revision. You notice how stupid this sound with vehicles instead of ba? Also early game lams are rare but they get more common the longer the game progresses when you actually need that damage. MechWarrior: Living Legends - Featured Community Vid: City Fighting. A single SSRM sizzles out beside your ear and is wire-guided straight into their cockpit. Battle Armor are extreme high risk, high reward units. There's no reward to getting close to enemies because you have no grenades. It's a dance of distance and height, gravity and bursts of acceleration. MechWarrior: Living Legends is 14v14 total war in the BattleTech universe. ... As I said I'm willing to test it but I'm still skeptical. For the Inner Sphere it is the Longinus, and for the Clan it is the Elemental. Two missiles are loaded by default, additional salvos may be purchased at an APC. DeimosEvotec having the c8 damage potential being shot down by lams. What do they have? I mean who doesn't want to use the Atlas' famed battle fists to punch things or hack into another battlemech with a Hatchetman or actually use a Centurion's shield arm to protect themselves. The game isn't completely realistic, but it was realistic enough. But his friend won't make it easy on you. You feather your jump jets to put you just underneath your cover and pull out your mpPPC. Wandering Samurai tried and failed, and none of us managed to do it either. This way AMS becomes a valuable asset against BA, but does not prevent daring close-range attacks and ambushes. Obviously. They don't stick to tanks, as that led to mass-crashes. Simply saying "we'll take away these tools and increase these numbers" isn't a design strategy that can lead to a viable or fun BA. Not that I care that you attacked me, but this manner of discourse that involves belittling those of different opinion is not appreciated. Well as exciting as BA duels can be (when you have a variety of weapons, not when both sides are just shooting each other with BACs), killing BA does almost nothing to help your team win. You are ignoring the fact that you have no experience playing BA whatsoever and never tried helping your team. I haven't played in probably over a year, but I have no doubt I can prove I understand the asset type better than you. The point of battle armor, at least in Living Legends (the fantastic Crysis Wars mod) was that you could deal massive damage to an enemy mech, especially if you manage to land on their head. And when someone manages to HGauss you in the face when you through you were perfectly safe/mobile, you laugh with them and type "great shot" when you respawn. So when someone who's been pivotal to the revival of MWLL says "well it's broken because people broke it with successive patches, so instead of fixing it, let's scrap all that and replace it with a simplified, inferior experience," it's a pretty sad day for me. Shadowcat Jump Jets Jump Jets, often abbreviated to "JJ", enable a Mech or Battle Armor to become airborne briefly. Though slower, his SRMs look pretty scare this close to his feet, now that you are on the ground. To me it seems we are both skeptical about the merging of srm and C8, tho I'm willing to test it out. You can start by mentioning what exactly your grief is with my proposal, as that is still not clear. The Elemental is the default Battle Armor for Clan players. , search. If you don't want to read a very nice post I made for you, HAARP, let me summarize rudely: from your posts, it is obvious you are garbage at playing BA because you don't understand how they play. It's the Mechwarrior game that I've been trying to find for a long time, ever since I played MW4 Mercs to the ground. Post news RSS MechWarrior: Living Legends - Updates 0.11.0, 0.11.1, and 0.11.2 - Battle of Tukayyid! Your jump jets have only recovered a little bit of juice. But if you don't want to buff the damage of the srm too much I would argue that four shots just isn't enough. I don't mind if the pilot has better jj, I don't mind if he has a lower radar signature. Instead of spamming them, you now get to carefully manage your precious ammo. Hey, if you are unwilling to back up your claims and refuse to even read what experts on the topic have to say, that's on you. He swivels, but at this range you're faster. I'm not that great in the air and I am garbage with assault mechs. To get the game go here. Date Introduced 3057 during the Era known as "Clan Invasion" (3050 - 3061) - Unit Role: Infantry - Battle Armor, https://wiki.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?title=Battle_Armor&oldid=10898. This isn't ... better. The bearac is a way bigger factor as it is a 600m pinpoint deathbeam that kills ba in under a second if held on target. Introducing MechWarrior: Living Legends - Community Edition!. Hence my less friendly response. You blast your mpPPC to a far-away wall and hit your JJs a little harder while switching to SSRMs. Gear up for three new mechs, three new maps, heavy machine guns, and a ton of bugfixes and adjustments! What the BA needs more than anything is bug fixes to take it back to where it was in the 0.5x versions. They've shaken a mite, but that's not enough to make him miss so you completely lay off the JJs while you fire another missile to distract him. On each of my lives, I probably connect with between 10 and 60 missiles. And let's be honest here, SRMs as they are now are only a threat if the BA player is either very patient or facing idiots. I do agree that the BA Mgun should be less powerful than the Bear AC. Battle Armor have never been a satisfactory element of Living Legends’ combat ecosystem. MechWarrior: Living Legends - Featured Community Vid: City Fighting. A fight with roughly equal winning odds ensues either you win and destroy the asf and lt or you loose and it gets back into the lt but in both cases a previously easy target suddenly transformed into an opponent with roughly equal strength to you. I will have to test it out sometime. No more annoying switching around of weapons." this. And even if they got there, they'd only be the equivalent of one enemy player. The primary weapon is interchangeable, offering two slots, but cannot be taken into a cockpit. Mechwarrior: Living Legends #4 - Battle Armor - Duration: 11:35. Having to constantly switch weapons and wait for it to rise up to see with ease which one you have selected is horrible UX. If you have a bearac in a ba fight you don't need another primary, tho the mPPC would be useful just for the utility. To add something constructive to the discussion, you want to Description . The canon Longinus has a one shot SRM2 pack, whereas the MWLL Longinus mounts two. 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